Electronic Throttle Controllers

[manxman]

When I had my '07 Sport Fit, I got in on the Blitz-brand Throttle Controller group buy on fitfreak.net. At around $300.00, this was an expensive little experiment, but it worked well enough to be worth the cost. It worked perfectly for the few months that I owned it, and when the car was totaled in an accident, it was easy to remove from the car with my three broken ribs, and to resell it to another S.F. Bay Area Fitfreak (thanks for the purchase, Jimmy- I hope you still like it).

Today, there are two more Throttle Controllers on the market for the '09 GE8 Fit. One is being sold by AJ Racing in Canada, priced at $190.00 U.S., and called the "D1 Spec Throttle Controller" (almost half the Blitz price). Unfortunately, it looks like a cheap piece of crap. I don't think that I want anything that cheap-looking in my car, but who knows- maybe its performance makes up for the bad appearance.

The other T/C is being sold by twpanson on fitfreak.net. He is working on a group buy, and is using JDMchris as his official tester. Bad choice- Chris is the guy who posted that Progress Rear Sway Bars don't and can't work. twpanson should have picked a more mechanically experienced tester. But I will give Chris credit for enough sense to be able to truthfully tell whether acceleration on a Fit is better with, or without, this Throttle Controller.

This one is called the "NTD Throttle Controller", and is being sold now on eBay for $170.00- nearly HALF the price of a Blitz Controller for a GE8, and less than the Canadian ugly black box.

From a dead stop, the GE8 is torquey enough so that I don't really NEED one of these things, but I was so impressed with the performance of the Blitz Throttle Controller, I will probably buy the NTD one just to see what it will do with the "grin factor" of driving a Fit.

[manxman]

For those who are interested-----

Since I owned a Blitz Throttle Controller and used it on my 2007 Sport Fit, and enjoyed it a lot, I was really interested in whether or not a competitive controller that costs half as much would work as well as the Blitz.

According to JDMChris on fitfreak, the NTD controller actually does. But I will not buy it. Why?

Because the NTD controller has to be plugged into the OBD port. I currently have a brand new Scan Gauge II plugged into that port, and I feel that the Scan Gauge will give me more value than the throttle controller.

Using the Blitz controller was fun, but over time, it became less important and less "necessary". It's a fun gadget, and if you do not intend to use a Scan Gauge, then you will enjoy the benefits of a throttle controller. but over time, you will use it less.

[claymore]

That's a great information advisory manxman. Did the blitz one also plug in the OBD port?

[macbuddy]

Originally Posted by manxman

For those who are interested-----

...But I will not buy it. Why?

Because the NTD controller has to be plugged into the OBD port. I currently have a brand new Scan Gauge II plugged into that port, and I feel that the Scan Gauge will give me more value than the throttle controller....

Dave,
If you really want to do this mod, don't give up yet. Take a look at this link, maybe this cable might work:

http://www.obd2cables.com/products/c...cable-1ft.html

If you want more links, try Googling similar sites by entering:
J1962M to 2-J1962F

Cheers,
-macbuddy-

BTW-I am good at helping other people spend their money!

[macbuddy]

Originally Posted by claymore

That's a great information advisory manxman. Did the blitz one also plug in the OBD port?

Hey John,
To answer that question, "No." The Blitz draws it's power through the "pass through" connection that is located just above the accelerator pedal. The OBD ll port is not used to power the Blitz TC.
-macbuddy-

[macbuddy]

Dave,
Take a close look at thts picture that JDMChris posted:
(click link below)
Picture of NTD main unit

Notice at 4 o'clock, the unit appears to have both male, and female OBDll ports available for connections. I began thinking about that when I read this particular statement posted by Quek at www.sgstream.org:

(click below to take you to this exact link)

Originally Posted by Quek

For those who is already owning this please note you can also install another one SP7 + SP7 = SP14

How else could he state that 2 units, could be hooked up simultaneously, unless they had provisions to do so.
Well Dave...it looks like you can have the NTD TC and SG2 units hooked up at the same time. Whether both units will perform as advertised, IDK. We will let you pioneer that experiment!

-macbuddy-

PS-Like I said, I am good at helping other people spend their money!

[manxman]

Hey, Mike!

I was thinking about looking for a "cable splitter" to use both OBD-connected devices, but as you once said, the T/C loses its newness and its importance after a few months of use. I sure was not going to pay $350.00 for the Blitz unit for the GE8. The low price, and the effectiveness according to the car salesman, made me interested in the NTD box, but I'm still not sure that I need it.

I haven't checked my email yet today, but I will bet that the vendor, twpanson, has answered my message that turned down his sales offer due to the need for the OBD port.

Thanks for your links about the splitter cables. I will check to see if the T/C actually DOES come with two OBD connections. That would make sense- with the T/C in place, you still will have a need to access the OBD port for other reasons- why make it necessary to remove the T/C?

The negative part is, either way, that's a LOT of thick, heavy cables hanging over your right knee- particularly if I have to use the splitter cable. (No reply yet today from twpanson).

Dave

[manxman]

Well, macbuddy helped to change my mind.
The NTD Throttle Controller vendor, twpanson, posted some much better photos of the control box than I had seen previously, and he also confirmed that there are two receiver plugs supplied in the wiring harness, which means that you can use the T/C with a ScanGauge plugged in at the same time.

So I placed my order through PayPal. Twpanson offered me the low group buy price of $140.00 shipped (that is his eBay price for this device set up for Subarus). The current fitfreak G/B price is $150. for up to eight buyers. If there are more buyers, the price will drop to $140. I got the lower price because I agreed to post supportive comments on this and other forums to help his sales. But I warned him that I only tell the truth.

[claymore]

Now that's "working together" good thing the members over here like to help each other out.

[manxman]

ANOTHER UPDATE:

I just heard from twpanson (real name Panson Pan, NTD Internet Sales Mgr.).
The Throttle Controller DOES NOT come with two OBD connections. To use it with a second device, like a ScanGauge, you do need to buy a separate OBD cable splitter, which I will do.

My NTD 3Drive Throttle Controller is shipping today from Houston by 1st. Class Mail.

I ordered the maleX2female connector Y cable from OBD2cables.com. With Priority Mail shipping, the total was $26. plus change.