AJ Racing parts warning

[claymore]

As much as I hate to send people to another site this information needs to be seen by members so they can make an informed decision about their parts purchases.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/site-feedback-suggestions/52122-aj-racing-selling-fake-js-products.html

[EXWRX]

Wow. . . pretty crazy. Really short sighted of AJR to screw over their major supplier like that.

[manxman]

You are likely to see more and more assertions of wrong doing on this fitfreak thread for quite some time. The only way that this will ever be resolved is for J's Racing to bring the suit, in Canada, that they have threatened. If they win, it will only be a result of them PROVING to a judge that their product designs have been copied by A&J.

I have been reading ads posted on fitfreak by A&J, and reading testimonials from their customers for about the last four years. Something about their products has always made me feel uneasy enough to prevent me from buying from them.

Then, when the T1R GE8 intake system started being shouted about, and delay after delay kept it off the market while A&J kept feeding more and more nonsense to the ignorant fitfreak members such as gbmurderer13, I felt even more strongly that A&J were using customer ignorance as a tool to increase sales of not-so-well designed products.

I have always felt that these people were marketers of fads. My opinion of them has nothing to do with whether or not they make and sell counterfeit merchandise. If J's Racing wins in court, there is the proof for all to see, and A&J will almost certainly go out of business. However, if J's loses their suit, or never actually goes through with a suit, then there is proof of the exact opposite.

P.s. For the fitfreak "old hands" who are familiar with the PRM/T1R intake controversy-

Since gbmurderer13 couldn't win his argument with me on the boards, he actually called Gerry Sica at PRM and told him to call me and get me to delete all of my posts on the intake thread. And Gerry actually did call me and asked me to do that. I refused, and told Gerry that since everything that I said was true, I would never retract a single word. As it stands today, the T1R B-Max Fit GE8 intake gives you a 5 hp. gain. The PRM gives you 8.5.

[manxman]

After scanning the fitfreak threads on this subject, AJ Racing is losing the battle of public opinion. But the truth will only come out in court, if J's Racing ever actually brings suit in British Columbia as they have threatened, or, if AJ publishes an apology and announces a damages settlement. If neither one of those happens, then this is a b.s. publicity stunt.

[Tinyvan]

I know A&J has most likely lost my business. I have never had a problem with them, but with these kinds of accusations and there explanation of why has really got me second guessing them.

[Witcher]

By the way, what is this "PRM/T1R intake controversy" that you speak of Manxman? I've followed FF for a while and I don't recall anything putting those 2 intakes side to side in an argument.

[manxman]

By the way, what is this "PRM/T1R intake controversy" that you speak of Manxman? I've followed FF for a while and I don't recall anything putting those 2 intakes side to side in an argument.
There is, or was, a big thread on intakes for the GE8 that began about 8-10 months ago. AJ Racing was trying to get interest in the as-yet unreleased T1R B-Max Intake. At the same time, PRM was running a GB on their new intake that fits both the M/T and A/T GE8 Fits.

Based on the photos of the T1R Plastic Breadbox intake, and the exact same intake being sold by six other marketers under different names and different colors, all of the "AJ Racing Groupies" and fanatics who believe that anything that comes from Japan just has to be fantastic, no matter what it is, ALL of these people (mainly ignorant and foolish) began to salivate and scream like little girls at an Elvis Presley concert in 1959.

The biggest little screaming girl was gbmurderer13, who wanted the plastic intake so badly he was passing out. I posted many explanations about how this intake could not be wonderful and could not be worth the price being quoted by AJ, and why no intake would ever be better than the PRM system for engine performance, and engine safety. But no one was interested in facts, and one of the more unintelligent mods actually lied to try to get me to be quiet (JDM DOHC Sir).

How did he lie? By telling the groupies that the PRM intake could not be a cold air intake because it picks up incoming air in the same location as the stock intake. But, he still believed that the T1R intake WAS a CAI, even though its filter is located right where the stock air inlet is located.

Now, in the light of day and published facts, the groupies are falling away from AJR as if they had leprosy, the dyno charts for the B-Max intake show an unimpressive 5 HP gain, and as far as I know, the T1R intake still has an open gauze filter hanging right in the air stream coming in from the factory under-hood air scoop, that carries as much water as it does air at 60mph on the freeway in a rainstorm. Now you see the reason for my earlier mention of engine safety.

The PRM Jet Stream Intake makes 8+ HP, water coming into the engine bay through the air scoop cannot get the PRM internal filter wet, and the PRM system is made of aluminum tubing and molded silicone rubber, not plastic, and is far less expensive than the Canadian bread box (in the fitfreak thread, I called it a "toaster oven" because it soaks up heat from the block and cylinder head, and has four 90 degree bends inside of it to slow that air down).

JDM DOHC banned me from fitfreak just for showing him that he was wrong, without using insults, name calling, or for any other justifiable reason. So, if this thread is no longer visible, it may be that one of the other admins "cleaned it up" (deleted it) to avoid embarrassment to the forums.

[Witcher]

Ah that debacle. I remember the long winded arguments about how this or that was or was not a cold air intake - hard to believe it's that difficult to get into some peoples' heads that the air coming in from the stock fender scoop is indeed a cold-air source.

I do recall that it was around that time you were suddenly banned from the forum.. makes sense now.

[manxman]

Ah that debacle. I remember the long winded arguments about how this or that was or was not a cold air intake - hard to believe it's that difficult to get into some peoples' heads that the air coming in from the stock fender scoop is indeed a cold-air source.

I do recall that it was around that time you were suddenly banned from the forum.. makes sense now.
It is surprising that you needed my explanation to remember it. Well, maybe not, if you personally were not interested in intake systems for the GE8.

[Fitness]

I'm sure most people read this already but incase they didn't it looks like AJ already made a post about the settlement regarding Js.

Hi,

This issue in question has been discussed. We had also timely responded to the letter after consulting with our lawyers. As to protect Js Racings and AJRs privacy, the complete response will not be posted. But in summary, the situation was a misunderstanding. In other words, ALL of the Js Racing products we had sold will always have our full confidence backed as for their source and authenticity.

This issue has been SETTLED between Js Racing and AJR. Js Racing entered a silent vow as they provided no further responses since April 23, 2009. No client-side loss was caused as a result of this incident.

To be honest, I personally think it will be way more beneficial to AJR if we at the company direct this time and effort for rebuttal to, instead, improving AJRs reputation and business. But I for one cannot stand aside on this matter and let this unjust bashing slide by. We are highly disappointed at Js company and Js employees discipline. As all can see, Js Racing had refrained from acting on any of the actions they have listed in the letter as they had absolutely no rights on publicizing this matter. Instead, they had to resort to private blog as a media and post it EIGHT months later to mitigate their responsibility. Such action reflects gravely on their characters and their way of dealing. Such action cannot be tolerated. We will commence actions for any damage caused.



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Guys, nothing against you but I honestly don't buy this aspect of your statement. If you were receiving sub-par products that were missing logo's or improperly packaged or of poor quality you should not shrugging your shoulders and continue to selling their products for so many years. Then there is the ethical side of this question, why would you pass on questionable products to your customers? This doesn't add up.

This is very true. What is missing here is that there also existed many products we couldnt send out and resulted in our loss. So because of this incident and their poor quality of goods delivered to us over the years, we had decided to stop importing Js Racing products for good. Js Racing has not officially stopped supplying to us. Since then, we had maintained an excellent relationship with all of our other suppliers, including SPOON, and distributors. I also urge further claims, if it would otherwise damage our reputation, to be discussed with proof rather than speculation.

Im Byron and I am the person who coordinated the seeking of legal advice on this matter. If you have any question, please contact me @ AJR (604) 279-0329. A request for closing this thread is on the way. I sincerely thank all of you for reading this far.


Regards,


Byron L. @ AJR

[manxman]

Thanks for the post-

As stated in post #4- "a b.s. publicity stunt" that looks like it came from J's, NOT AJR.

[ekonetics]

I got to meet Ben the current owner of AJR and see some of his cars when he came to Seattle for a track day and he seemed like a nice guy. I have not bought anything from AJR before, but was contemplating about a few parts before and a possible test car for a T1R turbo kit that supposedly was in the works for the GE8. The cars looked very nice and the parts looked like they were legit that he put on but the majority of them T1R so I don't know if he would put knock off products for a company that they own. The T1R parts were on Ben's R35 GTR, while the shop's S2000 was down at the track too which was set up very nicely as well. I have met a bunch of Canadians who have purchased from the shop and hang out at the shop, and from what they have told me before this issue came to light they enjoyed the parts that they bought and never had issues.


Article about the S2000:

http://www.turbomagazine.com/features/turp_0811_honda_s2000_ap1_a_and_j_racing/volk_racing.html