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manxman
06-12-2010, 02:33 PM
This subject has been well covered in other sites, and it bears repeating here. Honda USA lost a class action suit over a design flaw in the front grille. This flaw is shared by many other car makes and models, particularly those that have very low ground clearance in the front. The Fit is extremely at risk because of this flaw.

"The Flaw": The plastic front grille has such huge openings that it provides absolutely no protection against damage from rocks bouncing up from the road and into the air conditioning condenser. A hole in the condenser immediately stops the operation of the air conditioner. Rock holes in the A/C condenser are not covered in your warranty (considered "road hazard", "act of God", not covered). Dealers charge a minimum of $700.00 for A/C condenser replacement.
Look through your lower grille, and what you see immediately behind it is the A/C condenser.

"The Solution": protect the condenser with additional grille materials that keep rocks from hitting it. You can do this affordably and attractively with an add-on Billet Aluminum Grille that fastens over the front of the stock plastic surfaces with no cutting and no drilling. It looks like this:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5136/imgp1018ns7.th.jpg (http://img152.imageshack.us/i/imgp1018ns7.jpg/)

Or, you can "cheap out" and use wire or plastic mesh materials, like Home Depot "gutter guard" material, cut that to fit the lower grille area, and fasten it either in front of or behind the stock plastic grille panel. The bar type billet metal grilles and the cheap plastic mesh all are attached with plastic wire ties (zip ties). Once you get the zip ties attached tightly, whatever grille you use will never move. Zip ties hold a weight of 75 pounds each without breaking, and you will need at least 6 zip ties to attach any type of added grille protection. A billet aluminum grille like the on pictured on my Fit weighs 4 pounds. Plastic mesh material to cover the grille area weighs about one pound.

To attach any of these grille protection materials, all you need to do is remove the flat black plastic bridge piece that surrounds the hood latch between the radiator and the front grille above the bumper. This is for '09-'10 Fits. For the first generation GD3 Fits, it is best to remove the bumper (which is also easy). If you need help to do this easy protection, post your questions here or PM me for help.:):D:eek:

If you decide to buy the Billet Aluminum Grille like the one pictured, the best brand is "Mr. Grille" located in Norco, CA. Ebay Motors is the best place to buy, and Mr. Grille runs many ads for Fit grilles there. His product is the strongest on the market, and can be ordered either in a polished aluminum finish, or in black anodized finish.

I can't guarantee that your new Fit will suffer the loss of A/C because of a rock hole, but the chances are very good that it will. I CAN guarantee that a billet metal grille will prevent that event, and a cheap plastic mesh piece will greatly reduce the chances of that event happening.

You can find MANY posts on this subject, including several of mine on the fitfreak site.

zetaproducts.net
06-15-2010, 08:02 AM
Great tip Dave. Now I see what you look like.

You can also buy the grille from Zeta :D

http://www.zetaproducts.net/ses/2009.fit.grille.jpg (http://www.zetaproducts.net/09hondafitbilletgrille.aspx)

manxman
06-15-2010, 09:18 AM
Angelo,

I am embarrassed! I completely forgot that you also carried grilles for the Fit! I am sorry to have not included Zeta Products in my post.

Dave

zetaproducts.net
06-15-2010, 09:30 AM
No problem! We are included now. Good tip on the grille. Small investment now or a big investment later. ;-)

sooznd
06-15-2010, 09:53 AM
Dave- I appreciate this information. I will definitely get this grille before my big road trip across the country in September.
By the way-- where did you get that nice rubberized rear bumper protector? I have the rear bumper applique' for the 09-10 Fit & it looks cheap by comparison--like a piece of black sandpaper. Yours looks really nice & sturdy.

manxman
06-15-2010, 11:49 AM
Dave- I appreciate this information. I will definitely get this grille before my big road trip across the countty in September.
By the way-- where did you get that nice rubberized rear bumper protector? I have the rear bumper applique' for the 09-10 Fit & it looks cheap by comparison--like a piece of black sandpaper. Yours looks really nice & sturdy.
Wow! You are the first person to ever comment on my rear bumper protector, even after I posted a review of it two years ago on the freak site. Nice catch!. This protector is thick black plastic with ribs than run the width of the rear bumper surface. It is not made specifically for Fits- there are two sizes, large for big SUV's, and small for hatchback autos. And compared to the sticky-back black sandpaper that Honda rips you off for, the bullet-proof bumper protector in my photo cost an amazing $17.95. It attaches with 3M adhesive strips on the underside. Here's the link- excellent product--

http://www.buyautotruckaccessories.com/product.cfm/cf-bin/pn.powerflow-bumper-protector/

On your billet grille, the Zeta Products one is 304 Stainless Steel with a mirror polish and lifetime warranty. The Mr. Grille (Ebay name is wee12 for the vendor) billet grille is made of aircraft grade aluminum, and comes either mirror polished, or black anodized. I am thinking that the black anodized version would be a great contrasting color on the front of your Tidewater Blue Fit. I am in the process of ordering the black grille from Mr. Grille for my wife's silver Scion XB.

I would consider buying the polished SS grille from Angelo at Zeta, but he doesn't carry them for the older generation Scions- only '08 and up. They look GREAT, and you can't beat the appearance of Stainless Steel, but we don't have a '08 Scion XB (and we are glad that we don't).

Adding a protective grille before your road trip is a really good idea, and you will like the rear bumper protector if you buy it. My suggestion would be to mount the new bumper guard right on top of your existing Honda "sandpaper", because the plastic protector is not as deep as the cheap Honda one. Removing the Honda one may harm the paint on your bumper, too.

http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3752/imgp0997ue1.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/i/imgp0997ue1.jpg/)

If you put the front edge of the plastic protector right against the vertical surface under the hatch opening, the rear edge of the protector will come just to the rear edge of the bumper before it begins the diagonal taper downward. I remember reading that the Honda protector covers that sloping 1-1/2" wide end area of the bumper.

sooznd
06-15-2010, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the info on the rear bumper protector---luckily I got my black sandpaper one for $37 online & didn't pay the dealer price--but sill it looks cheap. Maybe it will do the job. You think it would not be a problem applying another one on top of mine? and it will work on a 2010 Fit? Do you have a link to your review of this on the Fit Freak site?

The black color grille would look better on my Tidewter Blue fit, too. I was thinking of spray painting whatever grill I bought black anyway.

manxman
06-15-2010, 01:38 PM
The "Powerflo" bumper protector will work perfectly right on top of the cheap Honda one. I stuck the Zeta Products Stainless Steel bumper protector right on top of the cheap Honda tape one on my '07 Fit, and it worked perfectly. Zeta does not have a similar product for the GE8 Fits, otherwise I would own, and would recommend it, to you. The same 3M adhesive is used on the '07 Zeta SS bumper protector and the Powerflo bumper protector, for the '09/'10 Fits.

I can't give you a link to my fitfreak review of the Powerflo protector, because I am banned there. When ignorant members and moderators try to push me around, I push back. Their only weapon against the truth is to ban the people who post the truth. I caught one of the freak moderators in a lie, and got banned over it. I am glad to be gone from there, because there are smarter, and more honest, people HERE.

macbuddy
06-15-2010, 02:26 PM
I think this is what Dave wants to show you:

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-exterior-modifications-jdm-styling/37480-real-bumper-protector-not-45-00-tape-honda.html

manxman
06-15-2010, 03:02 PM
I think this is what Dave wants to show you:

http://www.fitfreak.net/forums/fit-exterior-modifications-jdm-styling/37480-real-bumper-protector-not-45-00-tape-honda.html
From one of the smart and honest forum members with "dual citizenship". Thanks Mike.

sooznd
06-15-2010, 03:25 PM
thanks-- so would it look ok to have the area where the bumper turns down covered by just the OEM applique'- since this bumper protector isn't as deep?

http://www.hondapartssuperstore.com/catalog/images/lg/0903_FIT_Bumper_Applique.jpg

manxman
06-15-2010, 04:04 PM
thanks-- so would it look ok to have the area where the bumper turns down covered by just the OEM applique'- since this bumper protector isn't as deep?

http://www.hondapartssuperstore.com/catalog/images/lg/0903_FIT_Bumper_Applique.jpg
I say "yes" because with my '07 Fit, I had the OEM Honda tape on the bumper and hated the cheapness of its appearance. Then Zeta Products added a Stainless Steel bumper protector to their product line for the '07 Fits. I felt that trying to remove the Honda tape would damage the paint on the bumper, and just left the tape where it was and added the Stainless Steel protector right on top of it. The original tape added a little more protection for the areas of the bumper not covered by the Zeta protector, and the Zeta unit, being thicker and higher off the bumper surface, kept contact away from the tape. The black taped area actually framed the shiny SS protector with some contrast.

I think that the tape would also frame the much heavier duty plastic bumper protector, and the combination of the two would look like it came from Honda with the ultimate in protection for the bumper.

But that would be true only if the plastic protector does not extend beyond the left and right edges of the tape. I suggest that you look at the dimensions of the plastic protector on the linked web site, and measure your taped area. If the plastic piece will fit inside the dimensions of the tape, the combo will look fine.

P.s. And, if for any reason you don't like the combination and you haven't attached the thick plastic protector to the bumper, I'll bet that it would be easy to sell to another member who has not put the tape on the car.

jd636
06-17-2010, 10:02 AM
Great tip Dave. Now I see what you look like.

You can also buy the grille from Zeta :D

http://www.zetaproducts.net/ses/2009.fit.grille.jpg (http://www.zetaproducts.net/09hondafitbilletgrille.aspx)

I like the zeta lower grill setup better. My Fit is Storm Silver so is there any chance of getting the lower grill in black anodised?

sooznd
06-17-2010, 10:06 AM
I would be interested in black as well, since I have a tidewater blue Fit

manxman
06-17-2010, 10:29 AM
I like the zeta lower grill setup better. My Fit is Storm Silver so is there any chance of getting the lower grill in black anodised?
I don't know. Call Angelo at Zeta and ask. I doubt it- only aluminum can be anodized. The Fit grilles at Zeta are Stainless Steel, but you could paint it black.

jd636
06-17-2010, 02:10 PM
Mr Grille had black in stock so I have one on the way.

manxman
06-17-2010, 02:23 PM
Mr Grille had black in stock so I have one on the way.
Good! You will like it.